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Re:

Posted by Anonymous Guest, (2016-08-04 20:00:14)

.. may be transferred to remotest area of Mewat...

Re: For fuck sakes

Posted by I like to party, (2016-08-04 19:27:52)

In the back ground of every writ in hc or sc there is a motive(Public good or not) with an underlying intention of self preservation or benifit(name,fame for fighting for a commoner).
Self is foremost,after all for that alone almost everyone of us strive hard day after day to achieve this goal or that..
A hypothetical question arises,why didn't DU question this corrupt system when he was selected.
Is he mentally retarded?,to ask a normal human being with an ambition to make a career in public sector,you are asking him to question the very authority which has recently selected him.you are asking him to resign,kick aside everything he worked for years and fight the system which by then has not wrong him,not even once.
That is by far the most stupidest expectation.And that my friend is mother of all fuck ups.
He is neither a Gandhi or a Bose and certainly not a bhagat Singh to sacrifice himself and his opportunities for the betterment of others.
A moral high ground is not for all.Let him remain his mortal self,he has no intention to launch a political career out of this fiasco anyway.
Let it be

Re: HCS

Posted by Guru, (2016-08-04 19:16:26)

Dont plead anybody...Everyone is self centered when it comes to such a issue. Anybody who is going to court for optional, Nobody can stop them.Guys who are to appear in interview dont pay attention.Good luck.

Re: @DU

Posted by Anonymous Guest, (2016-08-04 17:31:42)

You're so beautifully evading the fundamental Qn Mr. DU....

And you're yourself a product of those Loopholes in system... How do you justify your locus standi...???

Don't make it Qualified vs Not Qualified... I'm not against a writ at all.. I favour scaling.. even if that means I going out of the list...

Mera sawal aapse hai.... Pahle itni preaching ki he kyu thi......

You seem so full of yourself Mr DU... Pahli baar koi aisa dekha h Jo maan'ne ko taiyar he nhi ki he can be outperformed... Holy God!!

And for your very kind information Jo log Qualify hue hn unme bahut se working hn... Koi shadishuda h koi bachho wala bhi h... Please don't demean their efforts..Apna self-coloured vision badlo... For God's sake please accept there can be people better than you out there. There are people in with pub Ad and geog also...

Re: @ Adi and ors

Posted by D.U., (2016-08-04 16:59:10)

Hi

Let me first say that I never posted anything in last few days and this has been my earlier post which is reproduced by someone whom I don't know so please verify before alleging something against me.

Secondly I want to state the following in my defense:-

1. I never said I am a messiah or a leader nor even those of my friends who are with me now in this case claim so and it is NOT a public interest which is moving us. No sir its our right which has been trampled by HPSC by crushing our optional subjects. We had left no efforts and all possible way to prepare despite all handicaps of being in job or having domestic responsibilities and so on. And suddenly we are out not because our performance at mains but due to deliberate decision of HPSC to award less marks in our options.

2. Please understand that our fight is against system and not an individual. I again say if you were in our position then u also can appreciate this fact but now u won't because you are having a HOPE that I'll make it this time. You hope will either result in an illusion if your out or else you are product of this corrupt system which take advantage of this kind of loopholes to get in.

Either way we will do what is necessary and what is required to be done. Please don't be worried about that and yes its our naked selfish and personal interest at stake here that merit should be promoted......

Regards

Re: @DU

Posted by Adi, (2016-08-04 16:06:42)

What you are doing is application of different sets of principles for similar situations.

But Thodi to laaj sharm rakhiye... Aap writ daliye... Aur shoq se daliye.... But usme public interest ka Rona mat roiye... This is a selfish and self centred act...

Where were your ethics and morals when you stood to gain by same process...

Remember, I do stand by your right to reach judiciary and say your mind.... But my opinion about you shall be formed in the light of your history.

जो आप कर रहें है ना उनको दोहरे मापदंड बोला जाता है, सत्यनिष्ठा की कमी।

P.S.: @ Others... Aap log khub jee jaan se ladiye agar aapko lagta h ki galat hua hai. This was all in context of Mr. DU

Re:

Posted by Anonymous Guest, (2016-08-04 14:23:11)

Hcs baba was correct. Thank you friend.

Re:

Posted by Anonymous Guest, (2016-08-04 14:14:22)

Bhai sahab apko kisi se permission nahi leni. No one is competent to give u permission. U r free. Do whatever possible.

Re:

Posted by Kb, (2016-08-04 13:53:08)

First sugar industry of india kaha thi? Anyone have idea??

Re: hcs

Posted by Anonymous Guest, (2016-08-04 13:51:03)

Hi

I really appreciate your understanding of sociology and nature of people here on blog, including mine. But the real question is why you or for that matter your other friends are against me that too personally ?

is it because u feel my actions will put spanner in your interview process ? or is it because of fact that I some how offended you by telling people about their rights ? or is it because you feel it shouldn't happen that somehow ppl should not unite against this unjust HPSC??

I personally feel none of this matters at this stage why :-

1. I/Anyone else don't need your/your friends permission to file writ or seek answer sheets which again pointless for your anger against me.

2. In no way i can get in your interview other than by judicial injunction which is to be decided by impartial Judiciary. It will be slow and painful battle in court between HPSC and us on merit and facts .

3. Berating me doesn't solve any purpose now as I have already been successful in meeting few like minded victims..

Hence in nutshell you won't achieve anything by decrying about me. Instead please concentrate on interview preparation.

Those preparing for interview please focus on three things:-
a) academic background
b) current affairs of Haryana including burning topic of reservation and your stand on it.
c) Your current job profile

In case of conventional questions such as why civil services please refer to some toppers interviews on mrunal.org

Though we are facing in opposite camps where I am trying level best to get revision of mains result with scaling and moderation. And we will fight till Supreme Court now with favourable time is available. But still we should not demeaning to others.

Remember the famous quote, "I do/may not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it." E.B. Hall

So let ppl say or do what they like for example writ, RTI etc and FOCUS ON what u have to do.

Regards

Re:

Posted by Kb, (2016-08-04 13:50:53)

NT exam ka kuch ata pta h kab hoga???

Re: sss

Posted by Anonymous Guest, (2016-08-04 13:42:09)

Hi

I really appreciate your understanding of sociology and nature of people here on blog, including mine. But the real question is why you or for that matter your other friends are against me that too personally ?

is it because u feel my actions will put spanner in your interview process ? or is it because of fact that I some how offended you by telling people about their rights ? or is it because you feel it shouldn't happen that somehow ppl should not unite against this unjust HPSC??

I personally feel none of this matters at this stage why :-

1. I/Anyone else don't need your/your friends permission to file writ or seek answer sheets which again pointless for your anger against me.

2. In no way i can get in your interview other than by judicial injunction which is to be decided by impartial Judiciary. It will be slow and painful battle in court between HPSC and us on merit and facts .

3. Berating me doesn't solve any purpose now as I have already been successful in meeting few like minded victims..

Hence in nutshell you won't achieve anything by decrying about me. Instead please concentrate on interview preparation.

Those preparing for interview please focus on three things:-
a) academic background
b) current affairs of Haryana including burning topic of reservation and your stand on it.
c) Your current job profile

In case of conventional questions such as why civil services please refer to some toppers interviews on mrunal.org

Though we are facing in opposite camps where I am trying level best to get revision of mains result with scaling and moderation. And we will fight till Supreme Court now with favourable time is available. But still we should not demeaning to others.

Remember the famous quote, "I do/may not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it." E.B. Hall

So let ppl say or do what they like for example writ, RTI etc and FOCUS ON what u have to do.

Regards

Re:

Posted by Anonymous Guest, (2016-08-04 13:41:11)

Interview Schedule on Website

Re:

Posted by Anonymous Guest, (2016-08-04 13:38:20)

Schedule out. From 22 AUG

Re: interview schedule

Posted by nk, (2016-08-04 13:05:32)

http://hpsc.gov.in/Interview/2016/Int_Sch_HCS_04-08-16.PDF
interview schedule

Re:

Posted by Anonymous Guest, (2016-08-04 12:24:10)

Okay brother. So now it seems that Interviews are pushed back 3-4 months. Probably in the month of November December.

Re: REGARDING HCS INTERVIEW

Posted by Hcs baba, (2016-08-04 09:03:27)

Friends commssn is not clear with interview dates. no schedule is finalised yet or even discussed at higher official levels.. dey r in mood of conducting asst professr exam first... no concrete info to share wid u guys. hopefully will get in next week.. all d best for upsc to fellow aspirants..

Re:

Posted by Anonymous Guest, (2016-08-03 18:02:41)

Or Kushmanada Sir ji... 1 baar bahut hota hai apni details yahan par publish karna. Uske baad jabardasti lagta hai.
You might be giving good classes. But no over advertisement here.

Re:

Posted by Anonymous Guest, (2016-08-03 18:01:57)

Or Kushmanada Sir ji... 1 baar bahut hota hai apni details yahan par publish karna. Uske baad jabardasti lagta hai.
You might be giving good classes. But no over advertisement here.

Re: HCS INTERVIEW

Posted by logical indian, (2016-08-03 17:52:44)

Prospects of Interviews getting later than what is hoped. Less information coming on this blog.

Re: @Interview

Posted by Anonymous Guest, (2016-08-03 15:51:11)

Asst. Profs. Ki dates aa gyi... Interview September mein jaane ki ummid

Re: Live Classes For Naib Tehsildar Exam 2016

Posted by Anonymous Guest, (2016-08-03 12:29:30)

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link:
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Re: Live Classes For Naib Tehsildar Exam 2016

Posted by Anonymous Guest, (2016-08-03 12:28:43)

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link:
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Re:

Posted by HPSC, (2016-08-03 12:17:53)

ANY UPDATES????????????
ABOUT
SCHEDULE OF INTERVIEW
NEW NOTIFICATION
APPEAL AGAINST EXAM

Re:

Posted by Anonymous Guest, (2016-08-01 10:44:12)

HCS baba can tell some information regarding this. It is expected to have these exams conducted in a fair manner.

Re:

Posted by Anonymous Guest, (2016-08-01 10:42:04)

This is alarming! How can u be so sure?
there is least probablity of marks manipulation as posted by one member. Thia is not expected and should not happen in thiz government.

Re:

Posted by Anonymous Guest, (2016-08-01 10:15:47)

Marks manipulation of those who have approach is going on... U will see high number of khatris in top 5........

Re:

Posted by logical indian, (2016-07-31 22:09:43)

Okay... 22 August or around it. Probably after induction of HPSC members before it. If schedule would come after 7 Aug, then what information will come next week?

Re: REGARDING HCS INTERVIEW

Posted by Hcs baba, (2016-07-31 21:19:24)

friends d info is not 100% sure. but what i got to know is interviews r from 22nd August.. nd schedule will be given after 7th Aug.. no chances f interviews going to late september or october which people r speculating.. they have to wind up d process by august end or september 10th.. rest info will come in next week.. gud luck for upsc.

Re: @hcs baba and others

Posted by logical indian, (2016-07-30 18:07:39)

Please tell whether interview expected before October?

Re: @ hcs baba

Posted by Anonymous Guest, (2016-07-30 02:12:28)

Bhai interview kab se start honge..

Re:

Posted by logical indian, (2016-07-29 15:11:06)

Next week! Any idea about Interviews starting date?

Re:

Posted by Anonymous Guest, (2016-07-29 14:22:14)

It must be a rumour
new interview schedule will come next week.

Re:

Posted by Anonymous Guest, (2016-07-29 13:38:54)

Is there any complaint regarding HCS mains? Came to know from some one. Though not sure about its truthfulness.

Re:

Posted by logical indian, (2016-07-28 21:47:12)

Any update regarding Interview? When is it expected?

Re: @Mahesh

Posted by Aditya, (2016-07-27 19:00:54)

Any idea of NT exam

Re: New post

Posted by Anonymous Guest, (2016-07-27 18:27:56)

Bhai wo post hcs judiciary branch ki hain

Re: hcs new post

Posted by mahesh , (2016-07-27 18:16:34)

HCS new post around 110 coming nxt week
Ap log apne level par conform kar sakte hai

Re:

Posted by Anonymous Guest, (2016-07-27 18:07:16)

Guys... Any idea about Interview Schedule?

Re:

Posted by Anonymous Guest, (2016-07-25 17:53:11)

Shaant ho Gaye saare. Kisi k pass Kuchh nahi Bolne or batane ko.

Re: Free Booklet For HCS Interview 2016“क्या करें, क्या न करें ?”

Posted by Anonymous Guest, (2016-07-25 15:23:02)

HCS Interview BOOKLET 2016 FREE
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Re: Nt exam

Posted by Dt, (2016-07-23 21:47:26)

Any idea descriptive exam ke marks add honge ke kya naib tehsildar mein....

Re:

Posted by Anonymous Guest, (2016-07-23 09:21:17)

Individual candidates have already decided

Kisi ki fake id pe koi details nahi send karni

Re: @DU @Rohit

Posted by Aditya, (2016-07-23 08:30:48)

Any news of NT Exam please share..

Re:

Posted by Anonymous Guest, (2016-07-23 00:37:26)

Guys stop responding or paying attention to DU unnecessarily. Let him do whatever he wants. And things like sending mark sheets etc. should be left to individual candidates.

Re:

Posted by Anonymous Guest, (2016-07-22 17:58:58)

kuch bhi.....khud ko he love letters,heights.....psychologist is something you need.

Re: @DU and all

Posted by Anonymous Guest, (2016-07-22 17:42:11)

nicely written DU. and dont worry a lot of this grp are with u.
it is a fight for justice, for fair treatment and for merit.
and for other victims. dont forget that unity is strength. i request you to forward your DMC to mail-id provided by DU. It will only strengthen our case . You will see the change next week ...

Reg

Re:

Posted by Anonymous Guest, (2016-07-22 16:26:21)

and he will show his dedication by giving resignation, he is against hpsc he won't eat bread earned by wrong means.trust him guys.please

Re: Fight for justice

Posted by DU, (2016-07-22 16:17:54)

Hi

Sorry last message is not mine. I never write without my name.

" We shall go on to the end. We shall fight in courts, we shall fight on the political front and information front, we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength with each passing day, we shall defend our right to justice and fair treatment, whatever the cost may be. We shall fight on the principles, we shall fight on the legal precedents, we shall fight in the offices and in the streets, we shall fight in the every possible way; we shall never surrender !!! Never ever surrender in front of tyranny of HPSC."

I'm quoting here words which are taken from a great speech that once galvanised a whole nation which was staring in the face of gloom and disaster yet these words inspired them and they changed the tide and history was recreated. This write is modified version of Winston Churchill's speech in House of Commons on eve of imminent destruction of UK at hands of Nazi Germany.

Today let it be our battle cry against HPSC.

Regards

Re:

Posted by Anonymous Guest, (2016-07-22 14:01:25)

huh...again split personality holder shifted to other personality, anonymous ban k now he is writing his true intentions: setting , khauga.......see everyone. god bless you,sorry to say no one is with you.I am sure he will screw himself ....jo hai uss se bhi jayega.

Re:

Posted by Anonymous Guest, (2016-07-22 13:44:47)

Le writ file karunga..tera interview rukwaonga..phir setting karke Teri seat bhi khaunga...tere Jo bus Ki ho wo karle..tu comment hi Karta reh jayega

Re:

Posted by Anonymous Guest, (2016-07-22 13:24:33)

Vaise Du galat platform pe hai. Isko bureaucrat nahi, neta hona chahiye. Bahut upar jayega.

Re: all bickering and no work makes most jacks oy naukri bloggers

Posted by Anonymous Guest, (2016-07-22 13:14:35)

du yaar ..aise khatarnaak quote mat daal yahan..ye itne intellectual type ka blog nahin hai ....ab mein bhi iska part ho gaya hun.waise yahan ya kahin bhi samaj sewa ke liye hcs ya ias banne wale log nahin hain..but most r having fun venting out their frustations over here

Re: @ again wrong person to reply

Posted by D.U., (2016-07-22 13:08:29)

Hi

Sorry bro again it is not for you as u have interview to prepare for and if you hadn't than no person can come up with such absurd logic.

Go ahead don't waste time here and prepare for interview.

Regards

Re:

Posted by Anonymous Guest, (2016-07-22 12:42:28)

If u wish to protest

First give your resignation

You are in job , chosen by same system which u are now calling unfair

You are selected

Don't say you stand among us who have not passed...

Prove yourself that you truly feel its injustice

Give ur resignation

And that we shall be equal

Standing together

Fighting together

Otherwise don't play your tricks on us

Re: @ personal attack

Posted by D.U., (2016-07-22 12:30:05)

Hi

I really appreciate your understanding of sociology and nature of people here on blog, including mine. But the real question is why you or for that matter your other friends are against me that too personally ?

is it because u feel my actions will put spanner in your interview process ? or is it because of fact that I some how offended you by telling people about their rights ? or is it because you feel it shouldn't happen that somehow ppl should not unite against this unjust HPSC??

I personally feel none of this matters at this stage why :-

1. I/Anyone else don't need your/your friends permission to file writ or seek answer sheets which again pointless for your anger against me.

2. In no way i can get in your interview other than by judicial injunction which is to be decided by impartial Judiciary. It will be slow and painful battle in court between HPSC and us on merit and facts .

3. Berating me doesn't solve any purpose now as I have already been successful in meeting few like minded victims..

Hence in nutshell you won't achieve anything by decrying about me. Instead please concentrate on interview preparation.

Those preparing for interview please focus on three things:-
a) academic background
b) current affairs of Haryana including burning topic of reservation and your stand on it.
c) Your current job profile

In case of conventional questions such as why civil services please refer to some toppers interviews on mrunal.org

Though we are facing in opposite camps where I am trying level best to get revision of mains result with scaling and moderation. And we will fight till Supreme Court now with favourable time is available. But still we should not demeaning to others.

Remember the famous quote, "I do/may not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it." E.B. Hall

So let ppl say or do what they like for example writ, RTI etc and FOCUS ON what u have to do.

Regards

Re:

Posted by Anonymous Guest, (2016-07-22 11:53:45)

Tu to ab bhi jhooth bol raha hai

Duniya idhar se udhar ho jaye tu apne naam se writ file kar hi nahi sakta

Tu vo material hi nahi hai re

Tu to dusron ko uksa ke pichhe se tamasha dekhne walon mei se hai

Tere jaise log sabse pahle apni gardan bacha ke bhaagte hain...

Aur kaun bali ka bakra banaya hai

Usse tera bhi pata lag hi jayega

Regards

Re: Free Booklet For HCS Interview 2016“क्या करें, क्या न करें ?”

Posted by Anonymous Guest, (2016-07-22 11:34:30)

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Re:

Posted by Anonymous Guest, (2016-07-22 11:14:30)

Aur ye du-pu, last time kitna fair hua tha sabko pata hai. Chupchap ja ke join kar liya, itna hi tha to kyun nahi sarkar ke khilf gaya ki interview me kam marks lagaye, marks me rigging hui. kyun nahi copies ko safe rakhawaya.Ab bhi dusron ki gardan fansa ke hasega.

Re:

Posted by Anonymous Guest, (2016-07-22 11:10:45)

as soon as possible destroy kar denge, kya inke baap ka raaj hai. At least 6 months from completion of process sab answer sheet rakhni hai. Ye supreme court ka verdict hai.Tune lagai kya, aur ek baat recruitment process pending hone tak hpsc ka discretionhai ki vo answer sheet na bhi provide karwaye. behave to aise kar raha hai ki bhuchal aa gaya hai. AAj ye chilla raha hai, kal koi interview mein fail hoga vo chillayega, ki maar daala.

Re: @ focus

Posted by DU, (2016-07-22 11:08:33)

Hi

Sorry brother this post wasn't meant for you. U should FOCUS on your upcoming Interview of HCS. We don't want to distract you from it. And sorry if this has caused some distraction. Continue your preparations. This for those unfortunate and incompetent like us who failed in mains.

And yes FYI I have filed it yesterday and will soon update you about writ also quite soon.

All the best for interview preparations and sorry for distraction your FOCUS from it.

Regards

Re:

Posted by Anonymous Guest, (2016-07-22 10:42:57)

Vinash kaale viprit budhi, bhai aap sab dusro ko he kyu btate ho, marks details bhejo... writ lgani hai,format h...RTI format h....RTI lgao, pehle aap kyu nhi kuch krte, if you are concerned about you job then we are concerned about our job and future opportunities as well,it's a humble request Stop misleading us.let us focus....please!!

Re: DRAFT RTI

Posted by D.U., (2016-07-22 10:01:57)

To

State Public Information Officer
Haryana Public Service Commission
Bays 1-10, Block-B, Sector-4
Panchkula, Haryana.

Subject:-Information under RTI Act 2005

I. Full Name of Applicant:- ………………………..S/o or D/o……………………, HCS (Exe Br) and Other Allied Services Mains Examination 2014 Roll No…………….

II. Address:-………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………. Haryana

III. Particulars of Information required- I wish to receive following information under the above mentioned statute:-

1. Scanned/Photocopies Copies of my answer scripts for all 5 subjects (listed below) of the written test of HCS (Exe Br) and other Allied Services Mains Examination 2014, with examination Roll No. …………………:-
i. Hindi & Hindi Nibandh
ii. English & English Essay
iii. General Studies
iv. Optional Subject
v. Optional Subject

As per the order of Hon’ble Supreme Court in Civil Appeal Numbers 823-854 of 2016 Kerala Public Service Commission & Ors. VS. The State Information Commissioner along with Civil Appeal Number 855 of 2016 Public Service Commission U.P. VS. Raghvendra Singh dated February 4th 2016, it has held that every candidate has right to obtain a photocopy/scanned copy of his evaluated answer sheet in the civil service exam from Public Service Commission. Therefore, the said information cannot be denied / withheld under Section 8 of RTI.

 Please provide above mentioned information by post on above mentioned address.
 A postal order of Rs 50 (Number ……………….) dated July …………… has been enclosed herewith as per Sub rule (1) of Rule 5, Haryana Govt. Rules 2009 related to Right to Information Act 2005.
 I am will willing to pay any additional fee if applicable.
 If this demanded information is with some other public authority, the PIO shall transfer the application to the same within 5 days and inform this applicant immediately under Sec 6(1b).

Yours sincerely

SIGNATURE (in own hand)
NAME…………………………………………………..
Mains Roll No. ………………………………..
HCS (Exe Br) and Other Allied Services Examination 2014

Date:-July....., 2016 Place:- …………………

Annexure:-
I. Indian Postal Order for Rs 50 (Number………………..) dated ………………….
II. Photocopy of the RTI Application for receiving purposes.
III. Mains Admit Card for above mentioned examination.

Re: seek answer sheets

Posted by D.U., (2016-07-22 09:56:13)

Hi

Please file for your answer sheets as soon as possible as they will surely going to destroy them as and when HPSC gets opportunity.

SO all those who feel they had done great especially in grammar and GS should file RTI for answer sheets.

I have a prepared draft for that RTI and in case you need to have that please let me know your email address on my mail id duonlinehry@gmail.com I'll send you and u need to just fill few blank spaces and attach an Indian Postal Order of Rs 50 and you are done.

You can do it at the comfort of your home or workplace and need not to be bothered about going to HPSC etc.

I don't need any more marksheets now as I already got good responses and we have a great team up on it. Nor does i have any selfish motives here.

If you don't want to mail to me its completely understandable than I suggest you cut copy paste from draft RTI posted on site of mrunal.org but do necessary changes of details.

http://mrunal.org/2014/06/upsc-uploads-marksheet-csat-prelims-mains-examination-2013-file-rti-get-mains-answercopies.html

I m trying to put the draft here also so that u can just pick it up.

Regards

Re: o bhai spammer

Posted by Anonymous Guest, (2016-07-21 19:14:23)

Sun bhai jisne case karna hai wo case Karta rahe..tu kyun yahan pe kyun Nigerian prince Ki tareh spam Ki barish kar raha hai...maan ja mat ma behen kar is forum Ki...tu alag se pil daal diyo du ke khilaf Ki thaari bhains ne khol legaya yo.magar humne baksh de bhai

Re:

Posted by Anonymous Guest, (2016-07-21 18:42:41)

Sam , daam, dand, bhed

Bas kisi tarah DU ka ho jata

Jaise pichhli baar hua

Fir sabko kahta DU

Bhaiyon move on

Maine pata kiya hai

Sab fair hua hai

Koi injustice nahi hua

Fir ye vo judgments bhi le aata

Jinse pata lagta ki
Iss stage pe kuch nahi ho Santa

He would have used his flowery language to support his agenda

Par ye kya

Over-confidence ne agenda hi change karva diya

Iska kaam sabka bewakuf banana hai

Aur kuchh nahi

Bas DU ka ho jaye
Baaki sab bhaad mei jayein!!

Re:

Posted by Anonymous Guest, (2016-07-21 18:34:23)

Re: @ HCS selection
Posted by DU, (2016-05-15 16:51:35)
Hi

These are my private views and expressed here to waylaying the anxiety that is been growing up among all of us. In no way these are to belittle anyone's efforts and hopes with this exam process. If someone is not agree with this viewpoint then reject them but it's not a personal level comment.

As word of wisdom I like to tell you all that there is nothing to fear about HCS exam or for that matter any other test of like variety. Why I would say this, as because everyone of us already know the consequences- either pass or fail. There couldn't be any different conclusion and hence there shouldn't be any room for fear even. And despite the fact that your exam went well there could be 50 more facts which could simultaneously go against your selection rendering into a negative result like culling of your optional etc. Thus it is neither a test of competence especially in light of no scaling and no level playing field nor it is something that most of us have made as sole purpose of life (though we must have strong feelings for being clear but I'm pretty sure Hcs is not something for which ppl sit back and prepare for years like in IAS).

Hence be prepared about either of the two consequences like if pass then prepare well for interview or if negative then next round of PT with changed pattern, if you're still keen on taking exam.

And speaking rationally, ball is now out of your court, whether you worry and feel anxious or be calm and productive, it won't change the consequences as its sealed off on last day of your mains paper.

So be calm and composed and believe in yourself- success or failure shouldn't change your views about yourself.

Regards

Re: correction
Posted by D.U., (2016-05-10 21:02:00)
In last line please read, those who have knowledge to manipulate are not in power and those who have power lacks knowledge. Hence it might be fair HCS selection.

Regards
Re: @ qaz and ors
Posted by D.U., (2016-05-10 20:59:17)
Hi

If you will analyse the pattern of HCS and other related exams and their selections then you would notice that Hooda Govt. has marked difference from Chautala regime as in Hooda govt the highest echelons like CM etc were least bothered about selections of their own ppl and it was IAS and other functionaries who ruled the roost and it was seen with apathy of govt in conducting HCS, in 9.5 yrs only two exams were conducted, those too marred by litigation and quality of papers was poor deliberately to facilitate officers to get their wards and manipulations done for cash.

As compared to this in Chautala's tenure, govt was keen and focused to get maximum no. of HCS batches- 1999,2002, 2003 and 2004 that too in 6 years. And here the selection was done directly at behest of CM and highest party officials but no cash for post was involved.

It's true that both were having high level of nepotism but this can't be ruled out in present govt as it's general apathy of govt towards these matters which allows officials to manipulate.

Yet it's not guts but the fact that those who have knowledge to manipulate are not in power and those who have power to manipulate are not in power. Hence it might be fair enough yet might be not sure.

Regards

Re: @ Rohit
Posted by DU, (2016-05-10 14:59:21)
Hi

That's a good news that they are working overtime to get the things sorted at earliest possible date and in these circumstances result may come soon.

However I wish to ask you to talk to your source again about 2-3 candidates who are expected to get very high marks in mains. I mean if we know then we can guard against them by sending representations. Please remember nothing can be done afterwards.

And one thing more last time still one cushion was that of high total seats but this time it is not so, hence even one paid candidate can mar our chances of interview call or day selection.

Therefore I stress that please take up this issue with your source and try to reveal such candidates, even if there is something like this so that it could be nipped in bud.

Regards

Re: @ qaz
Posted by DU, (2016-05-05 14:59:27)
Hi

There is no way one could find out about the marking process and that of inequality of marks as unlike UPSC there is no set panel of experts to examine and more there are any standard guidelines. It will be result of individual examiners checking out papers and allocating marks.

Yes that's possible that by second half of this month picture may appear that when result is scheduled and when is interview being started as it involves clerical staff and thus chances of information coming out.

Prior to that all result dates and final results etc are just predictions nothing much.

Also safely it could be presumed that in total only 750 candidates appeared in all papers as there were absentees in each room of the centres.

Regards

Re: @ Pub Ad and NITI
Posted by D.U., (2016-05-04 22:04:40)
Hi

Yes it is imperative for getting goods to use these recommendations but please understand that for quoting as recent as 14th FC, Muni Bonds etc one needs to be updating notes on continuous basis as these are more current affairs based stuff and I think most of candidates out there are working ones who don't have that luxury. Moot point is how many out there of total 371 Pub Ad candidates have this level of answers, if majority does, than surely it will be a close call.

Secondly if one has gone through the basic structure of NITI and also its positives as mentioned on its website one can write a decent answer. But its true that if you haven't prepared it then its little bit ambiguous to approach and hence best to avoid.

Regards

Re: @ pub ad
Posted by DU, (2016-05-04 20:11:48)
Hi

I tend to differ from view pt that PUB AD was easier paper and that it's almost same for everyone. Let me illustrate this point:-

1. In section A if you have read ARC 2nd especially 10th report and have good knowledge about factual data of various committees right from Appleby committee to that of 2nd arc then Reforms question was quite scoring as here one could even suggest the reforms in this regard by ARC.

2. Like wise Local Self Govt question has lot of scope to write quality answer about especially if you have gone through the data given by ARC 2nd and 14th FC about devolution of 3Fs and also Devolution Index along with few improvements like Municipal Bonds allowed by Sebi last year.

3. Those who appeared for UPSC last year or this year certainly read about NITI Aayog and it was quite factual for straight answer if one is aware about comparative analysis of both PC and NiTi and if fact it came in UPSC too although in little bit different language.

4. Similarly Minimum Govt question is straight lifted from UPSC 2015 mains and it could fetch good marks with appropriate examples.

Thus those who have read it extensively and could only write relevant answers and if there will be standard checking of this optional as it appeared from standard paper then many will be surprised that Pub Ad scores won't reflect the expectations. As in post 2012 UPSC Pub Ad has shown that now marks are only for a exact answer not like earlier days when any attempt will fetch good marks.

Though it can't be ruled out that my predictions can go haywire and pub ad as a whole score good marks as it last year mainly due to bias that it's knowledge is good for an administrators.

Regards

Re: @ show stopper
Posted by D.U., (2016-04-30 11:23:09)
Hi

I agree with your keen observation that there was no signature on sheet by invigilator as it is done in UPSC mains.

I also agree about your contention regarding it but I like to point out that it could be also seen as a potential safeguard.

Let's presume that there is invigilator signature on that sheet in an area which is not to be torn off, it will make your sheet quite identifiable as you can only have to focus on 24 off sheets with same signature and thus open to manipulation.

And if there is invigilator's signature on torn off piece then still it will not serve any purpose as it will be torn off anyway.

I think this sheet issue is not that big that it could lead to huge level corruption and escalation of cut off as you have predicted.

Regards

Re: @PU and others
Posted by DU, (2016-04-28 17:31:37)
Hi

Sorry for being late in replying, I would like to say this much about last batch is that some officers of that batch are not due to their performance but for something else. Even though some of officers are indeed very good, over all luck played a much bigger role than any other factor be it knowledge, link, personality etc mainly due to lack of scaling in mains. It's not that UPSC doesn't have luck it also does but in HPSC main factor is luck and everything else is secondary.

To illustrate my point I would like to remind all those who cleared PT with geography this time, it was mainly luck for few with geography optional as paper was easy and cumulative score went up. Where as many very bright Law optional candidates especially in General Category thrown out just because of their luck as their paper was extremely tough.

Thus in nutshell HCS is huge gamble of luck and it is unfortunately true this time too. Yes last year there were many approchee which will be absent this time hopefully. However HCS is still test of your skills and your astrology.

I would request you to please don't add suffix like Sir while referring to me as we all are equal here - candidates of HCS.

Regards

Re: @ yash and qaz and ors
Posted by DU, (2016-04-22 17:22:34)
Hi

Sorry for hurting your feelings about your attempts to quantify the cut offs. It's not my intention as we all do some sort of guess work. But let me illustrate my point of it's being futile exercise :-

1. For a valid approximate cut off first and foremost requirement is idea about the marking patern and range of marks in each subject. For example in UPSC the range of marks vary from 130-150 for an outstanding attempt out of 250 but more than that except one or two brilliant cases. THIS IS ENTIRELY LACKING IN HCS AS IN 2009 LAW OPTIONAL SAW MAXIMUM 74-85 BUT IN 2013 everyone knows.

2. UPSC or any PCS have range of marks for common subjects too. For example till 2009 Hindi, English and GS were main determinants of rank and any one who is acquainted to this fact 70s were common for good candidates in GS and higher 60's for language papers.
YET IN HCS 2013 GS MARKS WERE NO WHERE IN PICTURE EVEN THOUGH PPL WROTE GOOD ANSWERS. HINDI WAS MARKED BY EXCEPTIONAL LOSE MARKING AND ENGLISH OPPOSITE TO IT.

3. All UPSC panel and even in PCS like Rajasthan there is a fixed panel of examiners with experience and standing instructions which ensures continuity in marking and hence in cut off. THIS IS ENTIRELY LACKING HERE IN HPSC.

Thus it is like shooting blindly that too in darkness when we attempt to quantify a cutoff for Hcs mains. On top of it there is no scaling.

Lastly I'm not against the fact that people demanding scaling from HPSC but I'm just explaining that it is not in rules of HPSC. And one dear fellow said that anti scaling is there for PT only, to him I suggest to please go through conduct rules of HPSC listed on site.

Hence it would be naïve to presume that it will be done through our representations. Yet there is no harm in writing these representations. I just been telling for all that it's not here neither I'm opposed to any such representations and nor I'm stand to gain by opposing such progressive step. But truth is staring us in our face.

Lastly its for sure that there will be new notification of HCS soon but with reduced number of Exe posts due to this batch and that of 2004 one. But yes there will be notification this year itself.

Results will be at breakneck pace, within two months final result will be out.

Regards

Re: Few Realities
Posted by D.U., (2016-04-21 14:16:40)
Hi frds

Since mains are over and there have been rounds of intense discussions about the HCS mains let me highlight some points:-

1. About Scaling and moderation

It must be understood by all of us who appeared in HCS mains that its openly disclosed by HPSC that they don't such scaling operations and hence take into account raw marks only for deciding cut off. This has been so since first exam of HCS. Hence it will be futile to expect and write letters for same to HPSC at this stage.

More over it is impertinent of understand that those who had geography as optional in PT has made into mains due to very fact that there is not scaling in HCS and Geography paper was easy than most other options.

Thus just have to understand and accept the inherently unjust system of HPSC and also the high element of luck in this exam due to scaling which is known to all since day one.

2. Out of syllabus GS paper

This goes out to those who read between lines and allege that Medieval History question was not in tune with syllabus. Please refer to the previous papers that are for first time listed by HPSC on its site, there are questions on Vedic Civilizations, Jainism etc which gave us an ample hint that whole history is covered by examiner and hence prepare accordingly.

Just for information GS is overlapping and its all inclusive for interdisciplinary nature, where all have weakness and have advantages in their respective fields so its not fair to allege that its out of syllabus and give an unfair advantage to one section. Though personally I don't have history option but still its not unfair.

3. Results

Yes there are very high chance of early declaration of results since only 800 (26 could be safely presumed to be absent) copies are to be corrected and there is no issue of moderation and scaling. Hence result is feasible for all practical purposes in a month or so.

Interview call will be of approx 165-170 candidates (keeping in view bracketed candidates) which will be over in a week as last time they took 30 candidates each day 15 each in morning and evening sessions.

4. Cut off

Please bear it mind no sane person can predict the same in HCS as marking pattern changes each year. For example mains cut off was in 350s in 2009 and it was 373 in 2013. Final cutoff too varies accordingly as it was 433 in 2013 and 403-404 in 2009.

So please don't be speculative about cut off its of no use.

5. Marking pattern

On a whole all i can pray for is this that there should be qualitative attitude in checking of exams where enriched answers and one containing relevant factual data like for example ARC 2nd, 14th FC recommendations in Pub Ad and so on should be rewarded more rather than mundane answers.

But this will surely depend upon the examiner and hence can't be surely predicted.

6. Standard

On a whole surely this year standard for mains is much better than last two times and thus HPSC staff deserves a pat for hard work in setting good questions and also right steps in checking unfair means.

These views are strictly personal and hence open to criticism and discuss.

Regards

Re: @ mains
Posted by D.U., (2016-03-15 22:55:27)
Hi

Please be calm and focused for next few days and prepare hard. All you can do is to prepare and attempt, hence don't think of outcome at this stage.

One more thing remember HCS is always have a huge portion for luck as there is no scaling inter subjects and hence one tough paper or tight marking in one optional can make u sit out. As those in HCS 2013 batch can tell how 'law' optional ruled the roost then and u can see how Law was washed out in 2014 pre...

In short prepare well and rest leave things and worry there is examination center on last exam. Don't bring anything home but just satisfaction of good efforts.

All the very best and do well.

Regards

Re:

Posted by Anonymous Guest, (2016-07-21 18:33:29)

Re: @ HCS selection
Posted by DU, (2016-05-15 16:51:35)
Hi

These are my private views and expressed here to waylaying the anxiety that is been growing up among all of us. In no way these are to belittle anyone's efforts and hopes with this exam process. If someone is not agree with this viewpoint then reject them but it's not a personal level comment.

As word of wisdom I like to tell you all that there is nothing to fear about HCS exam or for that matter any other test of like variety. Why I would say this, as because everyone of us already know the consequences- either pass or fail. There couldn't be any different conclusion and hence there shouldn't be any room for fear even. And despite the fact that your exam went well there could be 50 more facts which could simultaneously go against your selection rendering into a negative result like culling of your optional etc. Thus it is neither a test of competence especially in light of no scaling and no level playing field nor it is something that most of us have made as sole purpose of life (though we must have strong feelings for being clear but I'm pretty sure Hcs is not something for which ppl sit back and prepare for years like in IAS).

Hence be prepared about either of the two consequences like if pass then prepare well for interview or if negative then next round of PT with changed pattern, if you're still keen on taking exam.

And speaking rationally, ball is now out of your court, whether you worry and feel anxious or be calm and productive, it won't change the consequences as its sealed off on last day of your mains paper.

So be calm and composed and believe in yourself- success or failure shouldn't change your views about yourself.

Regards

Re: correction
Posted by D.U., (2016-05-10 21:02:00)
In last line please read, those who have knowledge to manipulate are not in power and those who have power lacks knowledge. Hence it might be fair HCS selection.

Regards
Re: @ qaz and ors
Posted by D.U., (2016-05-10 20:59:17)
Hi

If you will analyse the pattern of HCS and other related exams and their selections then you would notice that Hooda Govt. has marked difference from Chautala regime as in Hooda govt the highest echelons like CM etc were least bothered about selections of their own ppl and it was IAS and other functionaries who ruled the roost and it was seen with apathy of govt in conducting HCS, in 9.5 yrs only two exams were conducted, those too marred by litigation and quality of papers was poor deliberately to facilitate officers to get their wards and manipulations done for cash.

As compared to this in Chautala's tenure, govt was keen and focused to get maximum no. of HCS batches- 1999,2002, 2003 and 2004 that too in 6 years. And here the selection was done directly at behest of CM and highest party officials but no cash for post was involved.

It's true that both were having high level of nepotism but this can't be ruled out in present govt as it's general apathy of govt towards these matters which allows officials to manipulate.

Yet it's not guts but the fact that those who have knowledge to manipulate are not in power and those who have power to manipulate are not in power. Hence it might be fair enough yet might be not sure.

Regards

Re: @ Rohit
Posted by DU, (2016-05-10 14:59:21)
Hi

That's a good news that they are working overtime to get the things sorted at earliest possible date and in these circumstances result may come soon.

However I wish to ask you to talk to your source again about 2-3 candidates who are expected to get very high marks in mains. I mean if we know then we can guard against them by sending representations. Please remember nothing can be done afterwards.

And one thing more last time still one cushion was that of high total seats but this time it is not so, hence even one paid candidate can mar our chances of interview call or day selection.

Therefore I stress that please take up this issue with your source and try to reveal such candidates, even if there is something like this so that it could be nipped in bud.

Regards

Re: @ qaz
Posted by DU, (2016-05-05 14:59:27)
Hi

There is no way one could find out about the marking process and that of inequality of marks as unlike UPSC there is no set panel of experts to examine and more there are any standard guidelines. It will be result of individual examiners checking out papers and allocating marks.

Yes that's possible that by second half of this month picture may appear that when result is scheduled and when is interview being started as it involves clerical staff and thus chances of information coming out.

Prior to that all result dates and final results etc are just predictions nothing much.

Also safely it could be presumed that in total only 750 candidates appeared in all papers as there were absentees in each room of the centres.

Regards

Re: @ Pub Ad and NITI
Posted by D.U., (2016-05-04 22:04:40)
Hi

Yes it is imperative for getting goods to use these recommendations but please understand that for quoting as recent as 14th FC, Muni Bonds etc one needs to be updating notes on continuous basis as these are more current affairs based stuff and I think most of candidates out there are working ones who don't have that luxury. Moot point is how many out there of total 371 Pub Ad candidates have this level of answers, if majority does, than surely it will be a close call.

Secondly if one has gone through the basic structure of NITI and also its positives as mentioned on its website one can write a decent answer. But its true that if you haven't prepared it then its little bit ambiguous to approach and hence best to avoid.

Regards

Re: @ pub ad
Posted by DU, (2016-05-04 20:11:48)
Hi

I tend to differ from view pt that PUB AD was easier paper and that it's almost same for everyone. Let me illustrate this point:-

1. In section A if you have read ARC 2nd especially 10th report and have good knowledge about factual data of various committees right from Appleby committee to that of 2nd arc then Reforms question was quite scoring as here one could even suggest the reforms in this regard by ARC.

2. Like wise Local Self Govt question has lot of scope to write quality answer about especially if you have gone through the data given by ARC 2nd and 14th FC about devolution of 3Fs and also Devolution Index along with few improvements like Municipal Bonds allowed by Sebi last year.

3. Those who appeared for UPSC last year or this year certainly read about NITI Aayog and it was quite factual for straight answer if one is aware about comparative analysis of both PC and NiTi and if fact it came in UPSC too although in little bit different language.

4. Similarly Minimum Govt question is straight lifted from UPSC 2015 mains and it could fetch good marks with appropriate examples.

Thus those who have read it extensively and could only write relevant answers and if there will be standard checking of this optional as it appeared from standard paper then many will be surprised that Pub Ad scores won't reflect the expectations. As in post 2012 UPSC Pub Ad has shown that now marks are only for a exact answer not like earlier days when any attempt will fetch good marks.

Though it can't be ruled out that my predictions can go haywire and pub ad as a whole score good marks as it last year mainly due to bias that it's knowledge is good for an administrators.

Regards

Re: @ show stopper
Posted by D.U., (2016-04-30 11:23:09)
Hi

I agree with your keen observation that there was no signature on sheet by invigilator as it is done in UPSC mains.

I also agree about your contention regarding it but I like to point out that it could be also seen as a potential safeguard.

Let's presume that there is invigilator signature on that sheet in an area which is not to be torn off, it will make your sheet quite identifiable as you can only have to focus on 24 off sheets with same signature and thus open to manipulation.

And if there is invigilator's signature on torn off piece then still it will not serve any purpose as it will be torn off anyway.

I think this sheet issue is not that big that it could lead to huge level corruption and escalation of cut off as you have predicted.

Regards

Re: @PU and others
Posted by DU, (2016-04-28 17:31:37)
Hi

Sorry for being late in replying, I would like to say this much about last batch is that some officers of that batch are not due to their performance but for something else. Even though some of officers are indeed very good, over all luck played a much bigger role than any other factor be it knowledge, link, personality etc mainly due to lack of scaling in mains. It's not that UPSC doesn't have luck it also does but in HPSC main factor is luck and everything else is secondary.

To illustrate my point I would like to remind all those who cleared PT with geography this time, it was mainly luck for few with geography optional as paper was easy and cumulative score went up. Where as many very bright Law optional candidates especially in General Category thrown out just because of their luck as their paper was extremely tough.

Thus in nutshell HCS is huge gamble of luck and it is unfortunately true this time too. Yes last year there were many approchee which will be absent this time hopefully. However HCS is still test of your skills and your astrology.

I would request you to please don't add suffix like Sir while referring to me as we all are equal here - candidates of HCS.

Regards

Re: @ yash and qaz and ors
Posted by DU, (2016-04-22 17:22:34)
Hi

Sorry for hurting your feelings about your attempts to quantify the cut offs. It's not my intention as we all do some sort of guess work. But let me illustrate my point of it's being futile exercise :-

1. For a valid approximate cut off first and foremost requirement is idea about the marking patern and range of marks in each subject. For example in UPSC the range of marks vary from 130-150 for an outstanding attempt out of 250 but more than that except one or two brilliant cases. THIS IS ENTIRELY LACKING IN HCS AS IN 2009 LAW OPTIONAL SAW MAXIMUM 74-85 BUT IN 2013 everyone knows.

2. UPSC or any PCS have range of marks for common subjects too. For example till 2009 Hindi, English and GS were main determinants of rank and any one who is acquainted to this fact 70s were common for good candidates in GS and higher 60's for language papers.
YET IN HCS 2013 GS MARKS WERE NO WHERE IN PICTURE EVEN THOUGH PPL WROTE GOOD ANSWERS. HINDI WAS MARKED BY EXCEPTIONAL LOSE MARKING AND ENGLISH OPPOSITE TO IT.

3. All UPSC panel and even in PCS like Rajasthan there is a fixed panel of examiners with experience and standing instructions which ensures continuity in marking and hence in cut off. THIS IS ENTIRELY LACKING HERE IN HPSC.

Thus it is like shooting blindly that too in darkness when we attempt to quantify a cutoff for Hcs mains. On top of it there is no scaling.

Lastly I'm not against the fact that people demanding scaling from HPSC but I'm just explaining that it is not in rules of HPSC. And one dear fellow said that anti scaling is there for PT only, to him I suggest to please go through conduct rules of HPSC listed on site.

Hence it would be naïve to presume that it will be done through our representations. Yet there is no harm in writing these representations. I just been telling for all that it's not here neither I'm opposed to any such representations and nor I'm stand to gain by opposing such progressive step. But truth is staring us in our face.

Lastly its for sure that there will be new notification of HCS soon but with reduced number of Exe posts due to this batch and that of 2004 one. But yes there will be notification this year itself.

Results will be at breakneck pace, within two months final result will be out.

Regards

Re: Few Realities
Posted by D.U., (2016-04-21 14:16:40)
Hi frds

Since mains are over and there have been rounds of intense discussions about the HCS mains let me highlight some points:-

1. About Scaling and moderation

It must be understood by all of us who appeared in HCS mains that its openly disclosed by HPSC that they don't such scaling operations and hence take into account raw marks only for deciding cut off. This has been so since first exam of HCS. Hence it will be futile to expect and write letters for same to HPSC at this stage.

More over it is impertinent of understand that those who had geography as optional in PT has made into mains due to very fact that there is not scaling in HCS and Geography paper was easy than most other options.

Thus just have to understand and accept the inherently unjust system of HPSC and also the high element of luck in this exam due to scaling which is known to all since day one.

2. Out of syllabus GS paper

This goes out to those who read between lines and allege that Medieval History question was not in tune with syllabus. Please refer to the previous papers that are for first time listed by HPSC on its site, there are questions on Vedic Civilizations, Jainism etc which gave us an ample hint that whole history is covered by examiner and hence prepare accordingly.

Just for information GS is overlapping and its all inclusive for interdisciplinary nature, where all have weakness and have advantages in their respective fields so its not fair to allege that its out of syllabus and give an unfair advantage to one section. Though personally I don't have history option but still its not unfair.

3. Results

Yes there are very high chance of early declaration of results since only 800 (26 could be safely presumed to be absent) copies are to be corrected and there is no issue of moderation and scaling. Hence result is feasible for all practical purposes in a month or so.

Interview call will be of approx 165-170 candidates (keeping in view bracketed candidates) which will be over in a week as last time they took 30 candidates each day 15 each in morning and evening sessions.

4. Cut off

Please bear it mind no sane person can predict the same in HCS as marking pattern changes each year. For example mains cut off was in 350s in 2009 and it was 373 in 2013. Final cutoff too varies accordingly as it was 433 in 2013 and 403-404 in 2009.

So please don't be speculative about cut off its of no use.

5. Marking pattern

On a whole all i can pray for is this that there should be qualitative attitude in checking of exams where enriched answers and one containing relevant factual data like for example ARC 2nd, 14th FC recommendations in Pub Ad and so on should be rewarded more rather than mundane answers.

But this will surely depend upon the examiner and hence can't be surely predicted.

6. Standard

On a whole surely this year standard for mains is much better than last two times and thus HPSC staff deserves a pat for hard work in setting good questions and also right steps in checking unfair means.

These views are strictly personal and hence open to criticism and discuss.

Regards

Re: @ mains
Posted by D.U., (2016-03-15 22:55:27)
Hi

Please be calm and focused for next few days and prepare hard. All you can do is to prepare and attempt, hence don't think of outcome at this stage.

One more thing remember HCS is always have a huge portion for luck as there is no scaling inter subjects and hence one tough paper or tight marking in one optional can make u sit out. As those in HCS 2013 batch can tell how 'law' optional ruled the roost then and u can see how Law was washed out in 2014 pre...

In short prepare well and rest leave things and worry there is examination center on last exam. Don't bring anything home but just satisfaction of good efforts.

All the very best and do well.

Regards

Re:

Posted by Anonymous Guest, (2016-07-21 18:31:47)

Re: @ HCS selection
Posted by DU, (2016-05-15 16:51:35)
Hi

These are my private views and expressed here to waylaying the anxiety that is been growing up among all of us. In no way these are to belittle anyone's efforts and hopes with this exam process. If someone is not agree with this viewpoint then reject them but it's not a personal level comment.

As word of wisdom I like to tell you all that there is nothing to fear about HCS exam or for that matter any other test of like variety. Why I would say this, as because everyone of us already know the consequences- either pass or fail. There couldn't be any different conclusion and hence there shouldn't be any room for fear even. And despite the fact that your exam went well there could be 50 more facts which could simultaneously go against your selection rendering into a negative result like culling of your optional etc. Thus it is neither a test of competence especially in light of no scaling and no level playing field nor it is something that most of us have made as sole purpose of life (though we must have strong feelings for being clear but I'm pretty sure Hcs is not something for which ppl sit back and prepare for years like in IAS).

Hence be prepared about either of the two consequences like if pass then prepare well for interview or if negative then next round of PT with changed pattern, if you're still keen on taking exam.

And speaking rationally, ball is now out of your court, whether you worry and feel anxious or be calm and productive, it won't change the consequences as its sealed off on last day of your mains paper.

So be calm and composed and believe in yourself- success or failure shouldn't change your views about yourself.

Regards

Re: correction
Posted by D.U., (2016-05-10 21:02:00)
In last line please read, those who have knowledge to manipulate are not in power and those who have power lacks knowledge. Hence it might be fair HCS selection.

Regards
Re: @ qaz and ors
Posted by D.U., (2016-05-10 20:59:17)
Hi

If you will analyse the pattern of HCS and other related exams and their selections then you would notice that Hooda Govt. has marked difference from Chautala regime as in Hooda govt the highest echelons like CM etc were least bothered about selections of their own ppl and it was IAS and other functionaries who ruled the roost and it was seen with apathy of govt in conducting HCS, in 9.5 yrs only two exams were conducted, those too marred by litigation and quality of papers was poor deliberately to facilitate officers to get their wards and manipulations done for cash.

As compared to this in Chautala's tenure, govt was keen and focused to get maximum no. of HCS batches- 1999,2002, 2003 and 2004 that too in 6 years. And here the selection was done directly at behest of CM and highest party officials but no cash for post was involved.

It's true that both were having high level of nepotism but this can't be ruled out in present govt as it's general apathy of govt towards these matters which allows officials to manipulate.

Yet it's not guts but the fact that those who have knowledge to manipulate are not in power and those who have power to manipulate are not in power. Hence it might be fair enough yet might be not sure.

Regards

Re: @ Rohit
Posted by DU, (2016-05-10 14:59:21)
Hi

That's a good news that they are working overtime to get the things sorted at earliest possible date and in these circumstances result may come soon.

However I wish to ask you to talk to your source again about 2-3 candidates who are expected to get very high marks in mains. I mean if we know then we can guard against them by sending representations. Please remember nothing can be done afterwards.

And one thing more last time still one cushion was that of high total seats but this time it is not so, hence even one paid candidate can mar our chances of interview call or day selection.

Therefore I stress that please take up this issue with your source and try to reveal such candidates, even if there is something like this so that it could be nipped in bud.

Regards

Re: @ qaz
Posted by DU, (2016-05-05 14:59:27)
Hi

There is no way one could find out about the marking process and that of inequality of marks as unlike UPSC there is no set panel of experts to examine and more there are any standard guidelines. It will be result of individual examiners checking out papers and allocating marks.

Yes that's possible that by second half of this month picture may appear that when result is scheduled and when is interview being started as it involves clerical staff and thus chances of information coming out.

Prior to that all result dates and final results etc are just predictions nothing much.

Also safely it could be presumed that in total only 750 candidates appeared in all papers as there were absentees in each room of the centres.

Regards

Re: @ Pub Ad and NITI
Posted by D.U., (2016-05-04 22:04:40)
Hi

Yes it is imperative for getting goods to use these recommendations but please understand that for quoting as recent as 14th FC, Muni Bonds etc one needs to be updating notes on continuous basis as these are more current affairs based stuff and I think most of candidates out there are working ones who don't have that luxury. Moot point is how many out there of total 371 Pub Ad candidates have this level of answers, if majority does, than surely it will be a close call.

Secondly if one has gone through the basic structure of NITI and also its positives as mentioned on its website one can write a decent answer. But its true that if you haven't prepared it then its little bit ambiguous to approach and hence best to avoid.

Regards

Re: @ pub ad
Posted by DU, (2016-05-04 20:11:48)
Hi

I tend to differ from view pt that PUB AD was easier paper and that it's almost same for everyone. Let me illustrate this point:-

1. In section A if you have read ARC 2nd especially 10th report and have good knowledge about factual data of various committees right from Appleby committee to that of 2nd arc then Reforms question was quite scoring as here one could even suggest the reforms in this regard by ARC.

2. Like wise Local Self Govt question has lot of scope to write quality answer about especially if you have gone through the data given by ARC 2nd and 14th FC about devolution of 3Fs and also Devolution Index along with few improvements like Municipal Bonds allowed by Sebi last year.

3. Those who appeared for UPSC last year or this year certainly read about NITI Aayog and it was quite factual for straight answer if one is aware about comparative analysis of both PC and NiTi and if fact it came in UPSC too although in little bit different language.

4. Similarly Minimum Govt question is straight lifted from UPSC 2015 mains and it could fetch good marks with appropriate examples.

Thus those who have read it extensively and could only write relevant answers and if there will be standard checking of this optional as it appeared from standard paper then many will be surprised that Pub Ad scores won't reflect the expectations. As in post 2012 UPSC Pub Ad has shown that now marks are only for a exact answer not like earlier days when any attempt will fetch good marks.

Though it can't be ruled out that my predictions can go haywire and pub ad as a whole score good marks as it last year mainly due to bias that it's knowledge is good for an administrators.

Regards

Re: @ show stopper
Posted by D.U., (2016-04-30 11:23:09)
Hi

I agree with your keen observation that there was no signature on sheet by invigilator as it is done in UPSC mains.

I also agree about your contention regarding it but I like to point out that it could be also seen as a potential safeguard.

Let's presume that there is invigilator signature on that sheet in an area which is not to be torn off, it will make your sheet quite identifiable as you can only have to focus on 24 off sheets with same signature and thus open to manipulation.

And if there is invigilator's signature on torn off piece then still it will not serve any purpose as it will be torn off anyway.

I think this sheet issue is not that big that it could lead to huge level corruption and escalation of cut off as you have predicted.

Regards

Re: @PU and others
Posted by DU, (2016-04-28 17:31:37)
Hi

Sorry for being late in replying, I would like to say this much about last batch is that some officers of that batch are not due to their performance but for something else. Even though some of officers are indeed very good, over all luck played a much bigger role than any other factor be it knowledge, link, personality etc mainly due to lack of scaling in mains. It's not that UPSC doesn't have luck it also does but in HPSC main factor is luck and everything else is secondary.

To illustrate my point I would like to remind all those who cleared PT with geography this time, it was mainly luck for few with geography optional as paper was easy and cumulative score went up. Where as many very bright Law optional candidates especially in General Category thrown out just because of their luck as their paper was extremely tough.

Thus in nutshell HCS is huge gamble of luck and it is unfortunately true this time too. Yes last year there were many approchee which will be absent this time hopefully. However HCS is still test of your skills and your astrology.

I would request you to please don't add suffix like Sir while referring to me as we all are equal here - candidates of HCS.

Regards

Re: @ yash and qaz and ors
Posted by DU, (2016-04-22 17:22:34)
Hi

Sorry for hurting your feelings about your attempts to quantify the cut offs. It's not my intention as we all do some sort of guess work. But let me illustrate my point of it's being futile exercise :-

1. For a valid approximate cut off first and foremost requirement is idea about the marking patern and range of marks in each subject. For example in UPSC the range of marks vary from 130-150 for an outstanding attempt out of 250 but more than that except one or two brilliant cases. THIS IS ENTIRELY LACKING IN HCS AS IN 2009 LAW OPTIONAL SAW MAXIMUM 74-85 BUT IN 2013 everyone knows.

2. UPSC or any PCS have range of marks for common subjects too. For example till 2009 Hindi, English and GS were main determinants of rank and any one who is acquainted to this fact 70s were common for good candidates in GS and higher 60's for language papers.
YET IN HCS 2013 GS MARKS WERE NO WHERE IN PICTURE EVEN THOUGH PPL WROTE GOOD ANSWERS. HINDI WAS MARKED BY EXCEPTIONAL LOSE MARKING AND ENGLISH OPPOSITE TO IT.

3. All UPSC panel and even in PCS like Rajasthan there is a fixed panel of examiners with experience and standing instructions which ensures continuity in marking and hence in cut off. THIS IS ENTIRELY LACKING HERE IN HPSC.

Thus it is like shooting blindly that too in darkness when we attempt to quantify a cutoff for Hcs mains. On top of it there is no scaling.

Lastly I'm not against the fact that people demanding scaling from HPSC but I'm just explaining that it is not in rules of HPSC. And one dear fellow said that anti scaling is there for PT only, to him I suggest to please go through conduct rules of HPSC listed on site.

Hence it would be naïve to presume that it will be done through our representations. Yet there is no harm in writing these representations. I just been telling for all that it's not here neither I'm opposed to any such representations and nor I'm stand to gain by opposing such progressive step. But truth is staring us in our face.

Lastly its for sure that there will be new notification of HCS soon but with reduced number of Exe posts due to this batch and that of 2004 one. But yes there will be notification this year itself.

Results will be at breakneck pace, within two months final result will be out.

Regards

Re: Few Realities
Posted by D.U., (2016-04-21 14:16:40)
Hi frds

Since mains are over and there have been rounds of intense discussions about the HCS mains let me highlight some points:-

1. About Scaling and moderation

It must be understood by all of us who appeared in HCS mains that its openly disclosed by HPSC that they don't such scaling operations and hence take into account raw marks only for deciding cut off. This has been so since first exam of HCS. Hence it will be futile to expect and write letters for same to HPSC at this stage.

More over it is impertinent of understand that those who had geography as optional in PT has made into mains due to very fact that there is not scaling in HCS and Geography paper was easy than most other options.

Thus just have to understand and accept the inherently unjust system of HPSC and also the high element of luck in this exam due to scaling which is known to all since day one.

2. Out of syllabus GS paper

This goes out to those who read between lines and allege that Medieval History question was not in tune with syllabus. Please refer to the previous papers that are for first time listed by HPSC on its site, there are questions on Vedic Civilizations, Jainism etc which gave us an ample hint that whole history is covered by examiner and hence prepare accordingly.

Just for information GS is overlapping and its all inclusive for interdisciplinary nature, where all have weakness and have advantages in their respective fields so its not fair to allege that its out of syllabus and give an unfair advantage to one section. Though personally I don't have history option but still its not unfair.

3. Results

Yes there are very high chance of early declaration of results since only 800 (26 could be safely presumed to be absent) copies are to be corrected and there is no issue of moderation and scaling. Hence result is feasible for all practical purposes in a month or so.

Interview call will be of approx 165-170 candidates (keeping in view bracketed candidates) which will be over in a week as last time they took 30 candidates each day 15 each in morning and evening sessions.

4. Cut off

Please bear it mind no sane person can predict the same in HCS as marking pattern changes each year. For example mains cut off was in 350s in 2009 and it was 373 in 2013. Final cutoff too varies accordingly as it was 433 in 2013 and 403-404 in 2009.

So please don't be speculative about cut off its of no use.

5. Marking pattern

On a whole all i can pray for is this that there should be qualitative attitude in checking of exams where enriched answers and one containing relevant factual data like for example ARC 2nd, 14th FC recommendations in Pub Ad and so on should be rewarded more rather than mundane answers.

But this will surely depend upon the examiner and hence can't be surely predicted.

6. Standard

On a whole surely this year standard for mains is much better than last two times and thus HPSC staff deserves a pat for hard work in setting good questions and also right steps in checking unfair means.

These views are strictly personal and hence open to criticism and discuss.

Regards

Re: @ mains
Posted by D.U., (2016-03-15 22:55:27)
Hi

Please be calm and focused for next few days and prepare hard. All you can do is to prepare and attempt, hence don't think of outcome at this stage.

One more thing remember HCS is always have a huge portion for luck as there is no scaling inter subjects and hence one tough paper or tight marking in one optional can make u sit out. As those in HCS 2013 batch can tell how 'law' optional ruled the roost then and u can see how Law was washed out in 2014 pre...

In short prepare well and rest leave things and worry there is examination center on last exam. Don't bring anything home but just satisfaction of good efforts.

All the very best and do well.

Regards

Re:

Posted by Anonymous Guest, (2016-07-21 18:28:28)

Re: @ HCS selection
Posted by DU, (2016-05-15 16:51:35)
Hi

These are my private views and expressed here to waylaying the anxiety that is been growing up among all of us. In no way these are to belittle anyone's efforts and hopes with this exam process. If someone is not agree with this viewpoint then reject them but it's not a personal level comment.

As word of wisdom I like to tell you all that there is nothing to fear about HCS exam or for that matter any other test of like variety. Why I would say this, as because everyone of us already know the consequences- either pass or fail. There couldn't be any different conclusion and hence there shouldn't be any room for fear even. And despite the fact that your exam went well there could be 50 more facts which could simultaneously go against your selection rendering into a negative result like culling of your optional etc. Thus it is neither a test of competence especially in light of no scaling and no level playing field nor it is something that most of us have made as sole purpose of life (though we must have strong feelings for being clear but I'm pretty sure Hcs is not something for which ppl sit back and prepare for years like in IAS).

Hence be prepared about either of the two consequences like if pass then prepare well for interview or if negative then next round of PT with changed pattern, if you're still keen on taking exam.

And speaking rationally, ball is now out of your court, whether you worry and feel anxious or be calm and productive, it won't change the consequences as its sealed off on last day of your mains paper.

So be calm and composed and believe in yourself- success or failure shouldn't change your views about yourself.

Regards

Re:

Posted by Anonymous Guest, (2016-07-21 18:27:54)

Re: @ HCS selection
Posted by DU, (2016-05-15 16:51:35)
Hi

These are my private views and expressed here to waylaying the anxiety that is been growing up among all of us. In no way these are to belittle anyone's efforts and hopes with this exam process. If someone is not agree with this viewpoint then reject them but it's not a personal level comment.

As word of wisdom I like to tell you all that there is nothing to fear about HCS exam or for that matter any other test of like variety. Why I would say this, as because everyone of us already know the consequences- either pass or fail. There couldn't be any different conclusion and hence there shouldn't be any room for fear even. And despite the fact that your exam went well there could be 50 more facts which could simultaneously go against your selection rendering into a negative result like culling of your optional etc. Thus it is neither a test of competence especially in light of no scaling and no level playing field nor it is something that most of us have made as sole purpose of life (though we must have strong feelings for being clear but I'm pretty sure Hcs is not something for which ppl sit back and prepare for years like in IAS).

Hence be prepared about either of the two consequences like if pass then prepare well for interview or if negative then next round of PT with changed pattern, if you're still keen on taking exam.

And speaking rationally, ball is now out of your court, whether you worry and feel anxious or be calm and productive, it won't change the consequences as its sealed off on last day of your mains paper.

So be calm and composed and believe in yourself- success or failure shouldn't change your views about yourself.

Regards

Re:

Posted by Anonymous Guest, (2016-07-21 18:27:07)

Re: @ HCS selection
Posted by DU, (2016-05-15 16:51:35)
Hi

These are my private views and expressed here to waylaying the anxiety that is been growing up among all of us. In no way these are to belittle anyone's efforts and hopes with this exam process. If someone is not agree with this viewpoint then reject them but it's not a personal level comment.

As word of wisdom I like to tell you all that there is nothing to fear about HCS exam or for that matter any other test of like variety. Why I would say this, as because everyone of us already know the consequences- either pass or fail. There couldn't be any different conclusion and hence there shouldn't be any room for fear even. And despite the fact that your exam went well there could be 50 more facts which could simultaneously go against your selection rendering into a negative result like culling of your optional etc. Thus it is neither a test of competence especially in light of no scaling and no level playing field nor it is something that most of us have made as sole purpose of life (though we must have strong feelings for being clear but I'm pretty sure Hcs is not something for which ppl sit back and prepare for years like in IAS).

Hence be prepared about either of the two consequences like if pass then prepare well for interview or if negative then next round of PT with changed pattern, if you're still keen on taking exam.

And speaking rationally, ball is now out of your court, whether you worry and feel anxious or be calm and productive, it won't change the consequences as its sealed off on last day of your mains paper.

So be calm and composed and believe in yourself- success or failure shouldn't change your views about yourself.

Regards

Re:

Posted by Anonymous Guest, (2016-07-21 18:26:37)

Re: @ HCS selection
Posted by DU, (2016-05-15 16:51:35)
Hi

These are my private views and expressed here to waylaying the anxiety that is been growing up among all of us. In no way these are to belittle anyone's efforts and hopes with this exam process. If someone is not agree with this viewpoint then reject them but it's not a personal level comment.

As word of wisdom I like to tell you all that there is nothing to fear about HCS exam or for that matter any other test of like variety. Why I would say this, as because everyone of us already know the consequences- either pass or fail. There couldn't be any different conclusion and hence there shouldn't be any room for fear even. And despite the fact that your exam went well there could be 50 more facts which could simultaneously go against your selection rendering into a negative result like culling of your optional etc. Thus it is neither a test of competence especially in light of no scaling and no level playing field nor it is something that most of us have made as sole purpose of life (though we must have strong feelings for being clear but I'm pretty sure Hcs is not something for which ppl sit back and prepare for years like in IAS).

Hence be prepared about either of the two consequences like if pass then prepare well for interview or if negative then next round of PT with changed pattern, if you're still keen on taking exam.

And speaking rationally, ball is now out of your court, whether you worry and feel anxious or be calm and productive, it won't change the consequences as its sealed off on last day of your mains paper.

So be calm and composed and believe in yourself- success or failure shouldn't change your views about yourself.

Regards

Re:

Posted by Anonymous Guest, (2016-07-21 18:23:48)

IF U NEED DETAILS U SHOULD REVEAL UR IDENTITY FIRST

SO THAT CANDIDATES COULD TRUST YOU FIRST

AS FROM WHAT WE GATHER FROM ALL YOUR POSTS IS THAT SUCCESS OR FAILURE REALLY CHANGES YOUR VIEWS ABOUT YOURSELF

YOU PREACH WHAT YOU DONT YOURSELF FOLLOW

YOU LIE USING YOUR FLOWERY LANGUAGE ONLY TO PURSUADE OTHERS TO FIT YOUR PLANS

FIRST YOU LIED BY USING YOUR FLOWERY LANGUAGE THAT EVERYTHING IS FINE, NO NEED TO WORRY BECAUSE YOU WERE OVER-CONFIDENT THAT YOU WILL PASS THE MAINS EXAM AND YOU HAD FEAR IN MIND THAT ANYONE COULD HARM THE COMPLETION OF RECRUITMENT CYCLE IF CANDIDATES GET TO FEEL THAT SOMETHING IS GOING WRONG...YOU , BY USING YOUR FLOWERY LANGUAGE TRIED TO PULL THE WOOL BEFORE EVERYONE'S EYES...SO THAT NOBODY STANDS IN YOUR WAY....

AS YOUR PLANS FAILED DUE TO MAINS RESULT BEING NEGATIVE...

YOU AT ONCE SHOUTED....INJUSTICE

AND THEN YOU STARTED YOUR PROPAGANDA

YOU DEMANDED TIME TO CREATE A NEW E-MAIL ID JUST TO HIDE YOUR IDENTITY
AND THEN YOU REQUESTED ALL TO SEND THEIR MARKSHEETS TO UR NEWLY CREATED FAKE MAIL ID..

WITHOUT EVEN ASCERTAINING THE FACT THAT HOW MANY OF THE CANDIDATES HAVE POSTED THEIR PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION MARKS HERE, YOU AT ONCE GENERALIZED AND CLAIMED THAT

EVERYBODY IN PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION HAS GOT LESS MARKS...

EVEN AFTER ASKING SO MANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE MERIT AND LOGIC BEHIND YOUR CASE , YOU REPLIED TO NONE, YOU JUST DID THE SAME THING WHAT YOU WERE DOING BEFORE DECLARATION OF RESULT....

THIS TIME TRYING TO PULL THE WOOL OVER THE LOSING CANDIDATES' EYES,

NOT ONCE IT CAME TO YOUR MIND THAT YOU ARE SO OBSESSED WITH YOUR PLANNING THAT YOU HAVE NO CONCERN FOR OTHERS WHOM YOU USED BEFORE AND WHOM YOU ARE PLANNING TO USE NOW...

YOU KNOW THAT YOU ARE NOT GOING TO FILE THIS USELESS WRIT IN YOUR NAME

AND I ALSO KNOW THIS FACT

AND STILL YOU ARE LYING...

YOU ARE MOULDING ALL LOGIC TO SUIT YOUR AGENDA...

YOU KNOW THAT YOUR LOGICS DON'T HAVE MERIT

YOU YOURSELF SAID TODAY THAT YOUR PETITION IS WEAK, BECAUSE THE BASE IS WEAK...

YOU ARE SERIOUSLY JEOPARDIZING THE FUTURE OF SO MANY HERE BY TRYING TO DELAY NEXT NOTIFICATION

AND PLEASE DONT GIVE THIS LOLIPOP TO EVERYONE THAT IT WILL BE FRUITFUL FOR THE NEXT NOTIFICATION...

LET THE PROCESS COMPLETE
LET THE NEXT NOTIFICATION COME
AND IF IT COMES WITH THE SAME INSTRUCTIONS AND RULES, THAT IS THE TIME TO FILE YOUR WRIT...

YOU ARE JUST PLAYING WITH EVERYBODY'S EMOTIONS HERE...EVERYBODY'S LIFE HERE AND ALSO THEIR FUTURE....

REGARDS

AND FRIENDS PLEASE DONT SEND UR DETAILS TO HIS FAKE ID....HE WILL USE YOU AND THEN DITCH YOU..

HE WILL NEVER FILE WRIT IN HIS OWN NAME...

Re: @ others who failed

Posted by D.U., (2016-07-21 17:59:10)

hi

And for all other candidates who are placed in same boat as me (fail in mains) there are two ways for u:-

1. Stand up and make a stand against HPSC. Others have proved it earlier in 2012 few ppl filled writ and fought case and in last HPSC has to take 1200 additional candidates in mains. Out of these finally 28 made into list.

* File RTI for your answer scripts,

* get in touch with your friends who are filing writ ( I get to know few other apart from me are also doing so) or if you don't know contact on duonlinehry@gmail.com as we are a thriving group here.

* file grievance on PM modi's site as its also your right.

* seek meeting with CM and give represents.

At least do something as simple as that file RTI seeking your mains answer scripts citing the below listed judgement. for this you don't need to spend anything more than RS 50

2. Or wait for next notification...... praying/hoping it won't be like this

Now who are suggesting that we should wait for next notification than file writ. Won't that writ DELAY that process ?? No then it won't matter to these as they would be selected this time.

I am no one, nor i am infallible may be I am not completely right but I refuse to be FOOL now.

Choose either of the two course of action... It's your choice....

and yes what and why you need my identity for ? I am asking for your money ? M I demanding a favour for myself ??

DON'T GET INTO LOGIC, if you see any, OF THESE PEOPLE.

FILE RTI FOR ANSWER SHEETS AND put HPSC in dock.

regards

Re: @ few of interview facing ppl

Posted by D.U., (2016-07-21 17:40:17)

Hi

Till now you were castigating me for trying to delay next notification, duping people, making out fools etc.

Now I have just posted a simple procedure for those who want to seek their answer sheets. Well its their right to understand and why they have been left out by HPSC.

Well there should not be a problem about that with anyone.

We are not seeking your answer scripts but ours and even Supreme Court even approve of it. So what could be any problem with anyone ? Unless someone is so desperate to trample upon anyone's rights or remedies.PLEASE DON'T BE SO SELFISH THAT YOU CAN'T TOLERATE ANYTHING AGAINST HPSC

After all there will be only 28 of you who will be in list and in case (God forbids) you don't make it into final list and turned out it is due to really absurd marks in mains than what ??

Have respect for rights of others and how they feel.

Some feel cheated here and remedy is to seek answer scripts.. So tolerate it

regards

Re:

Posted by Anonymous Guest, (2016-07-21 17:32:11)

IF U NEED DETAILS U SHOULD REVEAL UR IDENTITY FIRST

SO THAT CANDIDATES COULD TRUST YOU FIRST

AS FROM WHAT WE GATHER FROM ALL YOUR POSTS IS THAT SUCCESS OR FAILURE REALLY CHANGES YOUR VIEWS ABOUT YOURSELF

YOU PREACH WHAT YOU DONT YOURSELF FOLLOW

YOU LIE USING YOUR FLOWERY LANGUAGE ONLY TO PURSUADE OTHERS TO FIT YOUR PLANS

FIRST YOU LIED BY USING YOUR FLOWERY LANGUAGE THAT EVERYTHING IS FINE, NO NEED TO WORRY BECAUSE YOU WERE OVER-CONFIDENT THAT YOU WILL PASS THE MAINS EXAM AND YOU HAD FEAR IN MIND THAT ANYONE COULD HARM THE COMPLETION OF RECRUITMENT CYCLE IF CANDIDATES GET TO FEEL THAT SOMETHING IS GOING WRONG...YOU , BY USING YOUR FLOWERY LANGUAGE TRIED TO PULL THE WOOL BEFORE EVERYONE'S EYES...SO THAT NOBODY STANDS IN YOUR WAY....

AS YOUR PLANS FAILED DUE TO MAINS RESULT BEING NEGATIVE...

YOU AT ONCE SHOUTED....INJUSTICE

AND THEN YOU STARTED YOUR PROPAGANDA

YOU DEMANDED TIME TO CREATE A NEW E-MAIL ID JUST TO HIDE YOUR IDENTITY
AND THEN YOU REQUESTED ALL TO SEND THEIR MARKSHEETS TO UR NEWLY CREATED FAKE MAIL ID..

WITHOUT EVEN ASCERTAINING THE FACT THAT HOW MANY OF THE CANDIDATES HAVE POSTED THEIR PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION MARKS HERE, YOU AT ONCE GENERALIZED AND CLAIMED THAT

EVERYBODY IN PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION HAS GOT LESS MARKS...

EVEN AFTER ASKING SO MANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE MERIT AND LOGIC BEHIND YOUR CASE , YOU REPLIED TO NONE, YOU JUST DID THE SAME THING WHAT YOU WERE DOING BEFORE DECLARATION OF RESULT....

THIS TIME TRYING TO PULL THE WOOL OVER THE LOSING CANDIDATES' EYES,

NOT ONCE IT CAME TO YOUR MIND THAT YOU ARE SO OBSESSED WITH YOUR PLANNING THAT YOU HAVE NO CONCERN FOR OTHERS WHOM YOU USED BEFORE AND WHOM YOU ARE PLANNING TO USE NOW...

YOU KNOW THAT YOU ARE NOT GOING TO FILE THIS USELESS WRIT IN YOUR NAME

AND I ALSO KNOW THIS FACT

AND STILL YOU ARE LYING...

YOU ARE MOULDING ALL LOGIC TO SUIT YOUR AGENDA...

YOU KNOW THAT YOUR LOGICS DON'T HAVE MERIT

YOU YOURSELF SAID TODAY THAT YOUR PETITION IS WEAK, BECAUSE THE BASE IS WEAK...

YOU ARE SERIOUSLY JEOPARDIZING THE FUTURE OF SO MANY HERE BY TRYING TO DELAY NEXT NOTIFICATION

AND PLEASE DONT GIVE THIS LOLIPOP TO EVERYONE THAT IT WILL BE FRUITFUL FOR THE NEXT NOTIFICATION...

LET THE PROCESS COMPLETE
LET THE NEXT NOTIFICATION COME
AND IF IT COMES WITH THE SAME INSTRUCTIONS AND RULES, THAT IS THE TIME TO FILE YOUR WRIT...

YOU ARE JUST PLAYING WITH EVERYBODY'S EMOTIONS HERE...EVERYBODY'S LIFE HERE AND ALSO THEIR FUTURE....

REGARDS

AND FRIENDS PLEASE DONT SEND UR DETAILS TO HIS FAKE ID....HE WILL USE YOU AND THEN DITCH YOU..

HE WILL NEVER FILE WRIT IN HIS OWN NAME...

Re: seek answer sheets

Posted by D.U., (2016-07-21 17:30:28)

http://www.livemint.com/Politics/4TeVBfL1CnBGpWyGrEuMkL/Reveal-answer-books-interview-marks-Supreme-Court-to-PSCs.html

File RTI application with IPO Rs 50 and sign it with your own hand. If possible attach the copy of mains admit card.

In application put the name of this judgement and say you can't deny it in light of this judgement. Check the site of Uttar Pradesh Commission, RPSC all are now providing it.

Please seek your mains answer sheets and lets see how HPSC could give such absurd marks in HINDI and ENGLISH grammar as well as in optional subjects.

Let's see the naked truth of HPSC...

regards

Re:

Posted by Anonymous Guest, (2016-07-21 17:30:15)

Re: @ HCS selection
Posted by DU, (2016-05-15 16:51:35)
Hi

These are my private views and expressed here to waylaying the anxiety that is been growing up among all of us. In no way these are to belittle anyone's efforts and hopes with this exam process. If someone is not agree with this viewpoint then reject them but it's not a personal level comment.

As word of wisdom I like to tell you all that there is nothing to fear about HCS exam or for that matter any other test of like variety. Why I would say this, as because everyone of us already know the consequences- either pass or fail. There couldn't be any different conclusion and hence there shouldn't be any room for fear even. And despite the fact that your exam went well there could be 50 more facts which could simultaneously go against your selection rendering into a negative result like culling of your optional etc. Thus it is neither a test of competence especially in light of no scaling and no level playing field nor it is something that most of us have made as sole purpose of life (though we must have strong feelings for being clear but I'm pretty sure Hcs is not something for which ppl sit back and prepare for years like in IAS).

Hence be prepared about either of the two consequences like if pass then prepare well for interview or if negative then next round of PT with changed pattern, if you're still keen on taking exam.

And speaking rationally, ball is now out of your court, whether you worry and feel anxious or be calm and productive, it won't change the consequences as its sealed off on last day of your mains paper.

So be calm and composed and believe in yourself- success or failure shouldn't change your views about yourself.

Regards

Re:

Posted by Anonymous Guest, (2016-07-21 17:29:21)

Re: @ HCS selection
Posted by DU, (2016-05-15 16:51:35)
Hi

These are my private views and expressed here to waylaying the anxiety that is been growing up among all of us. In no way these are to belittle anyone's efforts and hopes with this exam process. If someone is not agree with this viewpoint then reject them but it's not a personal level comment.

As word of wisdom I like to tell you all that there is nothing to fear about HCS exam or for that matter any other test of like variety. Why I would say this, as because everyone of us already know the consequences- either pass or fail. There couldn't be any different conclusion and hence there shouldn't be any room for fear even. And despite the fact that your exam went well there could be 50 more facts which could simultaneously go against your selection rendering into a negative result like culling of your optional etc. Thus it is neither a test of competence especially in light of no scaling and no level playing field nor it is something that most of us have made as sole purpose of life (though we must have strong feelings for being clear but I'm pretty sure Hcs is not something for which ppl sit back and prepare for years like in IAS).

Hence be prepared about either of the two consequences like if pass then prepare well for interview or if negative then next round of PT with changed pattern, if you're still keen on taking exam.

And speaking rationally, ball is now out of your court, whether you worry and feel anxious or be calm and productive, it won't change the consequences as its sealed off on last day of your mains paper.

So be calm and composed and believe in yourself- success or failure shouldn't change your views about yourself.

Regards

Re:

Posted by Anonymous Guest, (2016-07-21 17:28:39)

Re: @ HCS selection
Posted by DU, (2016-05-15 16:51:35)
Hi

These are my private views and expressed here to waylaying the anxiety that is been growing up among all of us. In no way these are to belittle anyone's efforts and hopes with this exam process. If someone is not agree with this viewpoint then reject them but it's not a personal level comment.

As word of wisdom I like to tell you all that there is nothing to fear about HCS exam or for that matter any other test of like variety. Why I would say this, as because everyone of us already know the consequences- either pass or fail. There couldn't be any different conclusion and hence there shouldn't be any room for fear even. And despite the fact that your exam went well there could be 50 more facts which could simultaneously go against your selection rendering into a negative result like culling of your optional etc. Thus it is neither a test of competence especially in light of no scaling and no level playing field nor it is something that most of us have made as sole purpose of life (though we must have strong feelings for being clear but I'm pretty sure Hcs is not something for which ppl sit back and prepare for years like in IAS).

Hence be prepared about either of the two consequences like if pass then prepare well for interview or if negative then next round of PT with changed pattern, if you're still keen on taking exam.

And speaking rationally, ball is now out of your court, whether you worry and feel anxious or be calm and productive, it won't change the consequences as its sealed off on last day of your mains paper.

So be calm and composed and believe in yourself- success or failure shouldn't change your views about yourself.

Regards

Re:

Posted by Anonymous Guest, (2016-07-21 17:28:07)

Re: @ HCS selection
Posted by DU, (2016-05-15 16:51:35)
Hi

These are my private views and expressed here to waylaying the anxiety that is been growing up among all of us. In no way these are to belittle anyone's efforts and hopes with this exam process. If someone is not agree with this viewpoint then reject them but it's not a personal level comment.

As word of wisdom I like to tell you all that there is nothing to fear about HCS exam or for that matter any other test of like variety. Why I would say this, as because everyone of us already know the consequences- either pass or fail. There couldn't be any different conclusion and hence there shouldn't be any room for fear even. And despite the fact that your exam went well there could be 50 more facts which could simultaneously go against your selection rendering into a negative result like culling of your optional etc. Thus it is neither a test of competence especially in light of no scaling and no level playing field nor it is something that most of us have made as sole purpose of life (though we must have strong feelings for being clear but I'm pretty sure Hcs is not something for which ppl sit back and prepare for years like in IAS).

Hence be prepared about either of the two consequences like if pass then prepare well for interview or if negative then next round of PT with changed pattern, if you're still keen on taking exam.

And speaking rationally, ball is now out of your court, whether you worry and feel anxious or be calm and productive, it won't change the consequences as its sealed off on last day of your mains paper.

So be calm and composed and believe in yourself- success or failure shouldn't change your views about yourself.

Regards

Re: seek answer sheets

Posted by D.U., (2016-07-21 17:21:36)

http://www.livemint.com/Politics/4TeVBfL1CnBGpWyGrEuMkL/Reveal-answer-books-interview-marks-Supreme-Court-to-PSCs.html

File RTI application with IPO Rs 50 and sign it with your own hand. If possible attach the copy of mains admit card.

In application put the name of this judgement and say you can't deny it in light of this judgement. Check the site of Uttar Pradesh Commission, RPSC all are now providing it.

Please seek your mains answer sheets and lets see how HPSC could give such absurd marks in HINDI and ENGLISH grammar as well as in optional subjects.

Let's see the naked truth of HPSC...

regards

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Posted by Anonymous Guest, (2016-07-21 14:26:30)

Hcs baba kuchh batao

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Posted by Anonymous Guest, (2016-07-21 14:25:51)

Hcs baba kuchh batao

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Posted by Anonymous Guest, (2016-07-21 14:24:49)

Interview kab tak k liye postpone hue hai? Iss October tak ho jaenge?

Re: @Yash @Du

Posted by Rakesh, (2016-07-21 14:19:39)

Thanks.. and sorry for bakwas if it hurts you... you have any idea of NT exam please share..

Re: @all

Posted by Anonymous Guest, (2016-07-21 14:15:08)

its correct that PubAd guys scored less in UPSC paper that year but seriously have u seen that paper.. it was exceptionally tough so ppl were not able to attempt even 50% of it ...thus less marks ..Unlike here in HPSC where ppl have completed the paper.. written 20-30 sheets are then they scored only 40-50 marks..
and it is this stupidity and high handedness of HPSC that guys here are fighting. That UPSC example does not fits here

reg

Re: Bakwas marne wala Anonymous & RAKESH

Posted by Yash, (2016-07-21 12:53:49)

Tu share karke dikha iss blog pe Q papers...stupid...agar yahan koi attachment ka option hota to ab tak koi na koi share kar chuka hota...bolne se pehle soch liya kar...!!

Rakesh, i am a girl n i wont share papers with my id, though i have sent those papers to my interview group..n gave your email id, someone will def share with you in a day or 2..

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Posted by Anonymous Guest, (2016-07-21 12:37:38)

DU is good at trying to make everyone his bali ka bakra...

He is just using everyone here!

Re: @ Saurabh..

Posted by Anonymous Guest, (2016-07-21 12:21:04)

den its upto u sir how u take dis.. Mr. DU is taking d fight ahoy in courts.. u can try ur luck also.. nd m Rajat..

Re: Re: @DU and anonymous Guest(dnt know your name bro)

Posted by Saurabh, (2016-07-21 12:08:17)

I am not against finding fault in me or my answer writing skills. I am not perfect. Yes UPSC gave 15 marks in Pub Ad out of 300.
There was not a single comment from me when result came out.
I am science student and I argue on facts.
I may have the shittiest writing skill but when grammar, paragraph, english to hindi,precise translation is there.. where can you go wrong??
Please let me help to find fault.
I did check my answers and all the books are telling that my grammar was right.
How much strict marking can u do?
(Checker: Yar iska answer toh shi h par danda tedha lagaya h chalo 0 dedete h)
Is this strict for you?
Where can I and how can I could fauld in my grammar and paragraphs and over that you have essays.
We are just wasting in a hope that somday cuckoo may fly over the nest but it will not(btw...this was also a question in english paper).
Selected persons can think system is right. Non selected persons can think system is right my writing skill is crappy which I can accept without any problem.
My faith in this exam dies with marks in language papers.

Re: @ all who didn't qualify

Posted by D.U., (2016-07-21 11:59:39)

Hi

This is some bit of research which is done by one of our friend who is in touch via mail on my id and he has dug up a landmark judgement of Supreme Court of 2016 and it will help us all.

it will help you all to get scanned copy of your evaluated mark sheet from HPSC via RTI.

So if you want to view how such stupid and illogical marks are given by the HPSC than apply under RTI application with Rs 50 Indina Postal Order and attach this judgement.

Say Supreme Court has declared that now we can have the copies of evaluated answer scripts.

http://judis.nic.in/supremecourt/imgs1.aspx?filename=43346

Please don't give up and instead take on HPSC heads on.

Regards

Re: @ Saurab

Posted by D.U., (2016-07-21 11:50:11)

hi

There is no explanation or justification for the kind of marking pattern adopted by the HPSC and if you try to think that you could do better next time in the current system then please think hard as it is nothing but a naive though which falters on the hard reality.

And those who are saying that its fair checking are only either of the two cases, vested interest( may have an interview call) or gullible enough to find fault in yourself.

Please send your marksheet on this id and get in touch if you wish to reform this system and address this injustice.

duonlinehry@gmail.com

Regards

Re: @ sourabh

Posted by Anonymous Guest, (2016-07-21 11:50:02)

but dis subjecivity always remains in mains examination.. ye toh upsc me b hota h!! what v can do about dis??? except next try.. when upsc gave 10-15 marks in pub ad and 25-30 marks in philosophy.. none shouted about ambiguity or favaouratism or sanctity of examination??? mains ki marking ko aap challenge nahi kar sakte brother.. ye to checker k upar h bhai usse kiss language me ans chahiye.. i know some people who r in services in haryana only and another 5 people who faced interview in upsc (not hpsc) nd dey got d interview call in hcs also.. so dey got dis wid favoratism or with better ans dan u and me sourabh bhai?? so guys pls come out f dis result shock nd come better prepared next time..

Re: @ sourabh

Posted by Anonymous Guest, (2016-07-21 11:49:59)

but dis subjecivity always remains in mains examination.. ye toh upsc me b hota h!! what v can do about dis??? except next try.. when upsc gave 10-15 marks in pub ad and 25-30 marks in philosophy.. none shouted about ambiguity or favaouratism or sanctity of examination??? mains ki marking ko aap challenge nahi kar sakte brother.. ye to checker k upar h bhai usse kiss language me ans chahiye.. i know some people who r in services in haryana only and another 5 people who faced interview in upsc (not hpsc) nd dey got d interview call in hcs also.. so dey got dis wid favoratism or with better ans dan u and me sourabh bhai?? so guys pls come out f dis result shock nd come better prepared next time..

Re: Re: ON MAIN MARKS

Posted by Saurabh, (2016-07-21 11:37:48)

What should we write??? crap??
Conducted nicely?? They click your photo before each exam and you think they conducted nicely.
I could have got these marks even if I had written only crap in whole paper.
I am not saying I should have been selected for sure and I agree with you that there are shortcoming who did not get selected.
But there is no match between my marks and what I did in paper on a single argument that marks in language papers are fraud.
How can u do grammar wrong?? And every one who gave paper know how easy were they.
If the question was:
Who is gandhi???
You can give a person random marks.
But how can u give 45 in a per which has 5th class grammar of 30 marks and 20 marks paragraph.
They make fool of all people by following procedures. I was so convinced that this time they will be fair.
But they are not. If you have faith in this exam you keep wasting your years (2 years for each attempt). But, now I have none.

Re: ON MAINS MARKS

Posted by Anonymous Guest, (2016-07-21 11:21:57)

friends even m not qualified for interview.. got 328 marks.. but dont blame hpsc for ur failure.. dis time exam was conducted nicely.. without any favours.. atleast in 95% cases.. some favourable entries can be dere.. why u guys cant wait till d marks f selected one's.. definitely dey scored better dan us.. its a game f survival f fittest.. accept ur shortcomings.. its not academics exam dat if u write u will get marks.. its civil services.. u need to write to d point.. dere is some issue with our writting skill or v can say dose 160 candidates wrote better dan us..its better to improve ourselves first.. system me jaake system ko badalne ka sochna bhai logon.. lets gather d courage again.. ye koi kumbh toh h nahi ki 12 saal me aayega.. 6 mahine me phr mauka milega.. so lets come wid better preprtn next time..

Re: Mains Marks

Posted by Saurabh, (2016-07-21 11:12:21)

Strict marking does not mean u can cut marks in grammar.
Grammar is maths. It does not have any ambiguity.
Both papers have 30 marks of grammar. One 20 marks of paragraph and precise in English.
Letter,precise,hindi translation in Hindi Paper.
Even if u do only these things then U get 60-65 marks sure in English and 55-60 in Hindi.
Over that u have essays and even a 5th class student can write essay on pollution(which was there in both papers)
No strict marking says u get 0 marks in them.
This HPSC exam is total random crapolla and a fraud exam. I wasted 8 months of my job on this stupid exam first after pre then near mains.
You can not fight this system specially in India. How much you argue or fight u cant fight the facts I mentioned above. They just put random marks on your marksheet.
Selected people are lucky and best of luck to them. But I cant put all my efforts and hard work to get these random marks.
RIP HPSC for me.

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Posted by Anonymous Guest, (2016-07-21 10:21:19)

aap kitne tweet kr chuke ab tak?